“HR Heretics” | How CPOs, CHROs, Founders, and Boards Build High Performing Companies The Year End Special: Personal L’s, Big Wins, and Why Headcount is Dead
Dec 20, 2024
Kelli and Nolan share candid reflections on a transformative year, revealing personal struggles and triumphs. They recommend must-read books and binge-worthy podcasts that shaped their perspectives. Dive into their bold predictions for 2025, where they argue that traditional headcounts may be holding companies back. The discussion touches on themes of identity, resilience, and the necessity for authentic diversity and inclusion efforts in the workplace. Enjoy raw insights from two HR leaders who value real talk over fluff.
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Kelli's Initial Reluctance
- Kelli initially resisted Nolan's podcast invitation, feeling unqualified and camera-shy.
- She agreed after he assured her the show would be authentic and unpolished, reflecting their real-world experiences.
Honest HR Conversations
- Nolan emphasizes the podcast's authenticity and honesty, even when discussing controversial topics.
- He's proud that their discussions are pushing the HR industry to address previously taboo subjects.
Real-World HR Discussions
- Kelli values the podcast's practical, no-nonsense approach to HR topics, making complex issues more accessible.
- She also highlights the importance of diverse perspectives, reflecting the reality of workplace disagreements.
