In today’s episode, Dr. Greg interviews Bobby Angel about his experience of the CPMAP certification program and how it has transformed his ministry. They discuss Bobby's journey through the program, the personal growth he underwent, and his amazing work to support ministry leaders through retreats focused on rest and integration. 

Discussed in this episode:

• The challenges faced by people in ministry roles;
• Bobby's initial skepticism about the CPMAP program;
• The personal growth Bobby experienced during the Certification process;
• Combining personal growth with a call to serve others;
• Bobby’s retreat for ministers: a space for rest, integration, and ministering to ministers;
• How the CPMAP program isn’t just about learning or material regurgitation; it’s about transformation;
• Bobby's use of CPMAP principles in his retreat program;
• The impact of the CPMAP program on Bobby’s ministry work;
• Bobby’s vision for the future of his ministry.

Resources mentioned or relevant: 

• Feeling called to help others? Sign up for our Open House event! https://catholicpsych.com/openhouse
• Need help? Schedule a free consultation with Bobby Angel to discuss your next best step; 
• Learn more about Bobby’s personal story in episode 163: Leading from Weakness: Authenticity in Fatherhood 
• Learn more about the REST Retreat, a retreat for frontline ministers, hosted by Bobby and Jackie Angel;
• Visit Jackie and Bobby’s website for their books, podcast, blog, speaking engagements and more;
• Watch Jackie and Bobby on Ascension Presents;
• Learn more about our Certification program (CPMAP): CatholicPsych Model of Applied Personalism;
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