

Episode 176: Responding to Shock, Awe, and Censorship
Feb 6, 2025
Dr. Osterholm and Chris Dall unpack critical updates on U.S. public health influenced by political shifts, spotlighting the impact on global initiatives like PEPFAR. They discuss an unusual surge in flu cases, particularly among the young, alongside the rise of COVID-19 cases amongst older populations. The alarming spread of H5N1 avian flu is examined, plus a significant tuberculosis outbreak in Kansas. Amidst these challenges, they emphasize the urgency for enhanced public health measures and the power of resilience in adversity.
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Early Warning Signs
- The Trump administration's early actions signal potential threats to public health programs.
- These include foreign aid freezes, NIH grant pauses, and dismantling USAID.
Non-Partisan Service
- Michael Osterholm served in every presidential administration since Ronald Reagan, including the first Trump administration.
- He also served under two Democratic, two Republican, and one Independent governor in New York and Minnesota.
Kennedy and HHS Changes
- Expect Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s confirmation and major changes in the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).
- Be wary of misinformation, like the flawed autism-vaccine study Kennedy shared.