Mike Pompeo revisited: How could Trump end the war in 24 hours?
Nov 8, 2024
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Mike Pompeo, former CIA director and Secretary of State, shares fascinating insights into U.S. foreign policy and the Ukraine conflict. He discusses Trump's potential strategies for peace, emphasizing NATO's role and the complexities of global leadership with figures like Putin and Xi. Pompeo also reflects on the Republican debate regarding Ukraine funding versus domestic priorities. Additionally, he considers the implications of his past diplomatic decisions and critiques mainstream media's portrayal of these critical issues.
Mike Pompeo argues that a decisive victory for Ukraine requires increased U.S. military aid and a strong commitment to deterrence.
The podcast emphasizes the importance of U.S. support for Ukraine to influence negotiations and maintain stability in Europe amid potential changes in leadership.
Deep dives
Trump's Approach to Ukraine
Donald Trump and Mike Pompeo believe that the overarching goal for Ukraine is to achieve a decisive victory in the ongoing conflict. Pompeo expresses frustration with the current U.S. administration's approach, arguing that insufficient support has allowed the conflict to drag on instead of enabling Ukraine to win. He highlights that during Trump's presidency, the U.S. provided significant military aid, including defensive weapon systems, which he believes was lacking under President Obama. The commitment to bolster Ukraine's capabilities is seen as crucial in deterring further Russian aggression and restoring European security.
Negotiation and Deterrence Strategy
Pompeo discusses the necessity of establishing a deterrent against Vladimir Putin to prevent further hostilities and restore peace in Ukraine. He emphasizes that effective deterrence relies on demonstrating to Russia that the costs of aggression will outweigh any potential benefits. While recognizing that most conflicts eventually lead to negotiated solutions, he insists that any agreements must leave Ukraine in a position of strength. The conversation touches on the need for a robust NATO and U.S. presence to influence the dynamics between Putin and Ukrainian President Zelensky effectively.
Concerns over U.S. Support and Potential Policies
Amid discussions of Trump's possible return to office, concerns arise about how U.S. support for Ukraine may change. Pompeo counters fears from some Ukrainians by asserting that the historical record shows a strong commitment to Ukraine from the Trump administration. He argues that reducing support for Ukraine would have adverse effects on European security and U.S. interests. The conversation emphasizes that clear communication and support from the U.S. are essential for Ukraine's success in the conflict and for maintaining stability in the region.
Hear Donald Trump’s former secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, in conversation with Ukrainecast back in May. He discusses what his old boss really thinks about Ukraine, and what another Trump presidency could mean for the war.
He also talks about whether he’d take another top job in the White House - something which, in recent days, he’s been widely tipped to get.
Today’s episode is presented by Victoria Derbyshire and Vitaly Shevchenko.
The series producer is Tim Walklate. The senior news editor is Sara Wadeson.
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