
The Purpose Made Podcast Ep. 93 "My Atari Was My Best Friend"
BioShock creator KEN LEVINE reveals why he spent 10 years building his most personal game yet - where relationships are living systems that track hundreds of your choices and genuinely change how characters feel about you.
Ken Levine is the creative director of Ghost Story Games and legendary founder of Irrational Games. He created the BioShock series and System Shock 2 - games that earned multiple Game of the Year awards and redefined narrative storytelling in gaming. After BioShock Infinite, he made the controversial decision to close a 200-person studio and start over with a small team, spending the last decade developing revolutionary "Narrative LEGO" technology for his new game, Judas.
In this conversation, Ken reveals:
◼️ Why his Atari 2600 was his best friend growing up - and how childhood loneliness shaped his career
◼️ The brutal truth: "We were lost for 5 years" in Judas development
◼️ How Judas characters track hundreds of player actions and genuinely change their feelings about you
◼️ The quality standard that transformed his creative process.
◼️ Why he walked away from guaranteed BioShock to risk everything on an experiment
◼️ What George Orwell's 1984 taught him about game design
◼️ The vending machine confession: why he created his most autobiographical character yet
◼️ Why games matter to people and how they provide refuge
TIMESTAMPED CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Introduction to Ken Levine and His Work
(00:59) Ken Levine's Journey and Inspirations
(03:23) The Concept of Narrative Lego
(08:13) Building Complex Relationships in Games
(09:52) Challenges and Evolution in Game Development
(14:15) Influences and Reflections on the Gaming Industry
(29:51) Philosophical and Literary Influences
(34:38) Exploring Horror as Metaphor
(35:07) Family Dynamics in Storytelling
(35:51) Political Themes and Personal Reflections
(37:29) The Role of Ideology in Games
(42:56) Character Development and Narrative Depth
(44:29) Challenges and Rewards of Game Development
(1:00:07) Adapting Games to Other Media
(1:03:59) Final Thoughts and Reflections
Follow Ken Levine:
Ghost Story Games - https://www.ghoststorygames.com/
Watch the Judas Official Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5_r-un--bA
Ken's GDC Talk on Narrative LEGO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58FWUkA8y2Q
Play the BioShock Series: https://store.steampowered.com/agecheck/sub/127633
WATCH ON YOUTUBE: https://youtu.be/i3ueLqpU6K8?si=wVIL2W0aWuObmkfW
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Ken Levine's approach to game development has always prioritized deep narrative design and player agency. From his early work on System Shock 2 to the critically acclaimed BioShock series, Levine has consistently pushed boundaries in video game storytelling. His new project, Judas, represents a decade of game development focused on creating dynamic character relationships through innovative Narrative LEGO systems. The BioShock creator's journey from Irrational Games to Ghost Story Games showcases how AAA game development can embrace experimental design while maintaining immersive sim traditions. This interview explores game design philosophy, the creative process behind building revolutionary AI-driven character systems, and why emotional storytelling in games matters more than ever.
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