Dr. Jessica Zucker, a clinical psychologist and author specializing in reproductive health, shares her personal journey through miscarriage and the societal stigma surrounding it. She discusses the damaging effects of silence, shame, and societal expectations on women's lives. The conversation emphasizes the importance of breaking the taboo around miscarriage, advocating for open dialogue and empathy instead of platitudes. Zucker also explores how societal pressures influence body image and parenting, aiming to foster healthy conversations and support.
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Jessica's Personal Miscarriage Story
Jessica Zucker experienced a traumatic miscarriage at 16 weeks alone at home, including delivering the fetus herself and an unmedicated D&C.
This personal experience deepened her understanding of miscarriage beyond clinical knowledge and inspired her advocacy.
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Cycle of Silence, Shame, Stigma
Silence, stigma, and shame form a reinforcing cycle that exacerbates women's emotional pain.
Untold stories about reproductive health deepen shame and isolation, increasing risks of depression and anxiety.
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Supporting Loved Ones with Trauma
Show consistent presence with loved ones experiencing trauma; offer support without rushing their healing.
Use caring phrases like "I'm here for you" and check in regularly rather than using minimizing platitudes.
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Upending the Silent Stigma and Shame That Shapes Women's Lives
Jessica Zucker
In "Normalize It," Jessica Zucker tackles the pervasive issue of shame and stigma affecting women's lives. The book explores how societal pressures and silence surrounding various life experiences, from menstruation to menopause, contribute to women's emotional well-being. Zucker uses personal anecdotes and research to illustrate the impact of these unspoken experiences, offering strategies for breaking free from the cycle of silence and shame. The book encourages open conversations and self-compassion, empowering women to embrace their experiences without judgment. Ultimately, "Normalize It" advocates for a more supportive and understanding society that values women's diverse experiences.
Shame and stigma are used to keep us in line and keep us quiet. Some of it is quite obvious, while other parts of the shame and stigma are more subtle and a little harder to recognise. From girlhood, we are taught that we should look and feel a certain way. The expectations of motherhood, our careers, our bodies, whether or not we should choose marriage are all laced with taboos.
Today’s guest is Dr Jessica Zucker. Jessica is a clinical psychologist with a PhD who specialises in reproductive health and the author of the award-winning book I HAD A MISCARRIAGE: A Memoir, a Movement. Today we are going to unpack some of the concepts of her second book titled Normalize it: Upending the Silence, Stigma and Shame That Shape Women’s Lives.
We speak about:
Jessica’s own miscarriage and how women tend to blame themselves when they experience miscarriage
Being told to keep pregnancy a secret until 2nd trimester & how it can leave women feeling unsupported
The trifecta of silence, shame and stigma and how they all feed each other
“At least” comments and how they try to ‘tidy up’ pain
Objectification theory
Navigating diet culture and health messaging with our kids
The language we use when it comes to health and conditions like cancer of ‘beating it,’ ‘be strong’ and ‘fighting’
Perfectionism and it’s link to anxiety
The narratives of what we ‘should’ want to be like married and mothers
You can get a copy of Dr Jessica Zucker’s new book here: Amazon