Comedian and Podcast Host Ashley Gavin joins Mal to discuss gender norms in a same-sex relationship, the 'second adolescence' experienced after coming out, toxic masculinity in the lesbian community, and breaking stereotypes. 

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- We're Having Gay Sex: https://open.spotify.com/show/13Uhq9pO2Dx799YyWXZvB1

- Chosen Family: https://open.spotify.com/show/0yc257UifuN47iTWAmqAZn?si=71f5a7cd5f4c4cb2

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