AI & I Building AI That Builds Itself - Ep. 35 with Yohei Nakajima
Yohei Nakajima leads a double life.
By day, he’s a general partner of a small venture firm, Untapped Capital.
By night, he’s one of the most prolific internet tinkerers in AI. (He also sometimes works on automating his job as a venture capitalist.)
He’s the creator of BabyAGI (@babyAGI_), the first open-source autonomous agent that went viral in March 2023. Yohei has since released seven iterations of BabyAGI, a coding agent called Ditto, a framework for building autonomous agents, and, most recently, BabyAGI 2o, a self-building autonomous agent.
I sat down with Yohei to talk about:
- What feeds Yohei’s drive to create new tools
- The evolution of BabyAGI into a more powerful version of itself
- What Yohei learned about himself by tinkering on the internet
- Yohei’s personal philosophy about how the tools we build our extensions of ourselves
- Why founders in AI should think about their products from a modular lens, by addressing immediate problems while enabling growth in the future
- Yohei’s insight into a future where models will train themselves as you use them
We experiment with Ditto live on the show, using the tool to build a game of Snake and a handy scheduling app. Yohei also screenshares a demo of BabyAGI 2o in action.
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Timestamps:
- Introduction: 00:00:59
- BabyAGI and its evolution into a more powerful tool: 00:02:26
- How better models are changing the way Yohei builds: 00:05:00
- Using code building agent Ditto to build a game of Snake: 00:08:10
- The ins and outs of how Ditto works: 00:13:24
- How Yohei gets a lot done in little time: 00:19:21
- Yohei’s personal philosophy around building AI tools: 00:21:50
- How Yohei experiments with AI as a tech-forward parent: 00:33:13
- Demo of Yohei’s latest release, BabyAGI 2o: 00:39:29
- Yohei’s insights on the future of AI tooling: 00:51:24
Links to resources mentioned in the episode:
- Yohei Nakajima: @yoheinakajima, http://yohei.me
- Untapped Capital: @UntappedVC, https://www.untapped.vc/
- My first interview with Yohei, around the time he released BabyAGI: https://every.to/chain-of-thought/this-vc-is-slowly-automating-their-job
- The other AI tools Yohei has created: Ditto, BabyAGI 2, BabyAGI 2o
- The tweet thread about AI bots being let loose on a Discord server: https://x.com/AISafetyMemes/status/1847312782049333701