AREA52 - DEBRIEFED With Chris Ramsay A Nordic Encounter… 7 Years Before Roswell Happened | DEBRIEFED ep. 65
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Dec 5, 2025 In 1940, Udo Wartena had a surreal encounter with a non-human being near a mine in Montana, leading him aboard an advanced craft. His intriguing descriptions of the technology, including gravity manipulation, sparked decades of UFO research interest. The discussion dives into his later correspondence with Senator John Glenn and connections to other UFO cases featuring similar motifs like water extraction. The podcast analyzes discrepancies, beliefs, and the enduring mystery surrounding pre-Roswell events, keeping listeners captivated by the allure of the unknown.
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Private 1940 Contact With Nordic-Looking Beings
- Udo Wartena, a quiet Dutch prospector, described meeting two humanlike, tall, blonde occupants who spoke deliberate English and invited him aboard in 1940.
- He later recorded the encounter in a handwritten manuscript and shared it only with close friends and church authorities decades later.
Recurring Craft Interior Details Match Later Reports
- Wartena described the craft as two dinner-plate shapes inverted over each other with soft indirect lighting and upholstered benches inside.
- These recurring interior and lighting details match many later UFO reports and strengthen cross-case pattern recognition.
Flywheel/Gravity Explanation Parallels Other Accounts
- The occupants explained propulsion using counter-rotating flywheels or rings that overcome gravity and 'ride' stellar gravitation.
- This explanation parallels later claims (e.g., Bob Lazar) about using gravity generators to distort space for travel.
