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Rony Vernet on Brazil's UFO Hearing

Sep 19, 2025
Rony Vernet, founder of UAPBrazil.com and a prominent researcher in Brazilian UFO cases, joins to discuss the recent UFO hearings in Brazil. He highlights the political context surrounding the hearings and critiques the absence of military involvement. Vernet shares his insights on the challenges faced by researchers in a politically unstable environment and emphasizes the need for public awareness and military cooperation. Get a fascinating look at how Brazil is navigating UFO investigations and what steps lie ahead.
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ANECDOTE

Personal Fallout After Senate Hearing

  • Rony described being invited to a 2022 Senate hearing and later removed from collaborator groups after a key contact died.
  • He emphasized the personal loss of AJ Gervar and abrupt exclusion from organized ufology efforts in Brazil.
INSIGHT

Bring Military Voices To Legitimize UAPs

  • Rony argues ufology must stop talking only to itself and bring military voices into public hearings.
  • He says military testimony would legitimize the topic for the wider public and pressure releases.
ADVICE

Change Strategy: Reach Beyond Ufology

  • Rony advises changing strategy: stop repeating hearings dominated by ufologists and instead ‘explode the bubble’ to reach the general public.
  • He recommends publicly presenting already-known military actions and incidents to draw mainstream attention.
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