Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast 226. Ezra and Ta-Nehisi and a Cold Civil War
Nancy and Sarah talk about a lightning-rod conversation between NYT podcaster Ezra Klein and award-winning writer Ta-Nehisi Coates. The two men spar on the political project of Charlie Kirk and the problem with / way forward for Democrats, and pretty much every side of the audience gets ticked off.
Nancy was underwhelmed with the conversation; Sarah was reminded of private arguments she’s had and sees more common ground between Coates and Kirk than either might like to believe.
Also discussed:
* Sarah is done with echo chambers
* Coates: “I think Charlie Kirk was a hatemonger” mmmmkay
* The animating fuel of hate is bipartisan
* The world could use another James Baldwin
* Cue Rodney King: Can’t we all just get along?
* Buckley-Vidal cage match!
* Behold the sound of Sarah’s Diet Pepsi
* We are caught between real life and floating in the cloud
* America, a country of spoiled children?
* The ‘80s comic novel that wins every season
* Sarah vs. her ring light
* Nancy’s mantra: “I disagree with you. Let’s have dinner.”
* Does Sarah look like Nicole Kidman? Her parents think so.
* Pro/con: Keith Urban’s hair
* Baby Girl as overcompensation
* That time Nancy met Nicole Kidman and became the first journalist to learn Kidman and Tom Cruise were getting divorced
* Farts, snores: Human embarrassment, discussed
* Is Portland a war zone? Nancy reports.
* Wet panties are not a political endorsement!
Plus, love for Neil Armstrong and his son, Nancy and her daughter crush on a portly CIA director, and why America has many many stories.