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Uncle Bob Martin: Clean Code and How to Do Software Well - Episode 283

Feb 5, 2024

In this podcast, Uncle Bob Martin discusses the importance of clean code, Agile values, and the history of programmers. Topics include maintaining quality in software development, the upcoming book on the history of programmers, and the shift towards functional design principles. The conversation also touches on Moore's Law, software commoditization, and the need for efficiency in programming practices.

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Quick takeaways

Quality code is crucial over quick solutions to avoid delays and production issues.

Functional programming enhances state control and concurrency management, preparing for technology advancements plateau.

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Uncle Bob Martin seeking a software engineering apprentice

Uncle Bob Martin announces a job opportunity for a young.net programmer to assist with architectural prototypes, coding, and pattern discovery. The ideal candidate should view programming as a hobby and be passionate about continuous learning and professional growth under Uncle Bob's mentorship.

Introduction

3min

Exploring the Origins of Clean Code and Software Development History

15min

Evolution of Programming Practices and Pioneering Contributions

5min

Exploring Functional Programming Paradigms

10min

Software Commoditization and Technological Plateau

8min

Efficient Programming Practices and Software Development Advice

2min

If you don’t already know Bob, he is a software engineer, instructor, and best-selling author. He is most recognized for developing numerous software design principles and for being a founder of the incredibly influential Agile Manifesto. Bob is the author of a number of Clean Code related books including his latest, Clean Agile: Back to Basics, where he reintroduces Agile values and principles for a new generation of programmers and nonprogrammers alike. In the past, Bob was also the editor-in-chief of C++ Report magazine and served as the first chairman of the Agile Alliance.

Topics of Discussion:

[3:48] Why the term “clean” when it comes to software?

[5:16] Are people still writing “dirty” software?

[7:06] it is the developers job to maintain quality, and pretending to go fast by rushing is not a viable solution.

[9:54] Uncle Bob’s upcoming book on the history of programmers.

[11:00] The first era of programmers may be the scribes of Egypt.

[15:00] How Uncle Bob went about organizing the book into different eras of programmers.

[18:10] A short backstory about Grace Hopper.

[23:33] Uncle Bob’s other new book which is out now, Functional Design.

[24:54] Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs

[28:37] Does functionality have a concise set of principles?

[33:11] Where are the shifts happening?

[34:01] The loss of Moore’s Law.

[37:33] What will be the winning strategies as we prepare for a few years where things grow, but not as quickly as they have, and we sit on a plateau?

[40:51] Make it right, then you can make it fast.

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