
Azure & DevOps Podcast
The Azure & DevOps Podcast is a show for developers and devops professionals shipping software using Microsoft technologies. Each show brings you hard-hitting interviews with industry experts innovating better methods and sharing success stories. Listen in to learn how to increase quality, ship quickly, and operate well. Hosted by Jeffrey Palermo and sponsored by Clear Measure, Inc.
Latest episodes

Jun 30, 2025 • 46min
Jimmy Bogard: MediatR & AutoMapper - Episode 356
Jimmy Bogard, the mastermind behind AutoMapper and MediatR, shares his journey in the .NET open-source realm. He discusses what fuels his passion for coding and the strategic move to commercialize his libraries while maintaining a dual licensing model. Dive into the world of software architecture as he explains how MediatR organizes code by use case and how AutoMapper simplifies object mapping. Jimmy also touches on the importance of intentional API design and balances his roles as a consultant and open-source maintainer.

Jun 23, 2025 • 51min
Steve Smith: Software Architecture - Episode 355
Steve Smith, a renowned software architect and entrepreneur from NimblePros, discusses the pivotal role of software architecture in development. He emphasizes the importance of lightweight documentation and design principles like KISS for clarity. Steve also dives into the significance of design patterns in managing complexity and enhancing code functionality. Additionally, he shares insights on the impact of AI tools in coding, balancing efficiency with the need for human oversight. His mentorship efforts at DevBetter.com aim to empower the next generation of developers.

Jun 16, 2025 • 42min
Bob Ward: SQL Server 2025 - Episode 354
Bob Ward, a Principal Architect for Microsoft Azure Data, shares insights from his 31 years at Microsoft, focusing on SQL Server 2025. He discusses debunking myths around SQL Server's cloud readiness and developer-friendliness. Bob highlights new features improving developer productivity, including AI tools like GitHub Copilot, real-time analytics, and enhanced testing practices. He emphasizes the significance of community engagement and responsible AI use, all while encouraging developers to embrace modern database practices for improved reliability.

Jun 9, 2025 • 42min
Michael Washington: The Nature Of Data - Episode 353
Michael Washington, an accomplished ASP.NET and C# programmer and founder of BlazorData.net, shares his journey from developing early applications to launching innovative projects. He introduces the Personal Data Warehouse, an open-source tool for effective data management. The discussion highlights the three data phases: collection, transformation, and reporting, emphasizing how transformed data drives decision-making. Michael also explores AI's role in data processing and warns against over-reliance on it, advocating for human insight in critical fields.

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Jun 2, 2025 • 45min
Rockford Lhotka: Software Architecture & Strategy - Episode 352
Rockford Lhotka, Vice President of Strategy at Xebia Microsoft Services, is a prominent software architect and the creator of the CSLA .NET framework. He shares insights from his early career, emphasizing the significance of understanding user needs in software design. The conversation dives into the influence of AI on architecture and how tech advancements reshape development practices. Lhotka also discusses the value of networking for career growth and the necessity of adapting mindsets to embrace emerging technologies in the ever-evolving software landscape.

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May 26, 2025 • 40min
Scott Hunter: AI-driven development - Episode 351
Scott Hunter, Vice President of Product for Azure Developer Experience at Microsoft, shares insights from his tech journey and the evolution of .NET. He dives into AI’s revolutionary role in software development, discussing how tools like ChatGPT transform coding practices. Scott highlights the importance of enhancing efficiency with Site Reliability Engineering agents and customizable solutions. He also emphasizes breaking down complex tasks using AI-driven prompts and the need for continuous developer feedback to refine AI tools for better productivity.

May 19, 2025 • 36min
Scott Forsyth: How Kitchen Copilot uses AI - Episode 350
Scott has spent over 25 years in the IT field, working in disciplines such as systems architecture, software development, team growth, and entrepreneurship. He was a Microsoft MVP for 12 years in ASP.NET and IIS. He’s co-authored two books (IIS 7 and IIS 8 Professional), is a Pluralsight author, and has spoken at various conferences, code camps, and user groups. He's now shifted into the AI space, building AI solutions and supporting others in their AI journey. Scott co-founded a new startup, Kitchen Copilot, using all the new GenAI tech to help people cook more at home and eat healthier. Topics of Discussion: [1:34] Scott’s career journey and how Kitchen Copilot originated. [7:27] More about Kitchen Copilot’s features. [9:35] How Kitchen helps with meal planning and recipe discovery for all levels of at-home chefs. [13:17] The technical process of importing recipes. [15:58] Using Microsoft Document intelligence to read handwriting and take screenshots of cookbook recipes. [17:13] Deployed pieces of the application. [20:43] E-mail import and queuing system. [23:32] Choice of LLM models including Groq. [29:37] Automated testing approach for LLM-based applications. [31:36] Hosting details. Mentioned in this Episode: Clear Measure Way Architect Forum Software Engineer Forum Programming with Palermo — New Video Podcast! Email us at programming@palermo.net. Clear Measure, Inc. (Sponsor) .NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer’s Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo Flowise Attention is all you need Kitchen Copilot Make Perplexity Claude Groq About Groq Scott on LinkedIn Kitchen Copilot AI Generator Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

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May 12, 2025 • 34min
David Lykken: AI in Executive Strategy - Episode 349
In this engaging discussion, David Lykken, founder and president of Transformational Mortgage Solutions, shares his 51 years of experience in the mortgage industry. He dives into the use of current AI tools like large language models and blockchain, revealing their potential to transform recruiting and communication. Lykken recounts personal challenges that fueled his interest in AI, emphasizing the importance of the human touch in an increasingly automated world. He inspires listeners to envision a future where AI enhances productivity while preserving essential human qualities.

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May 5, 2025 • 37min
Jeff Sutherland: The History of Agile - Episode 348
Jeff Sutherland, co-creator of Scrum and CEO of Scrum Inc., shares his journey from military discipline to Agile innovation. He discusses how complex adaptive systems theory laid the groundwork for Agile practices. Sutherland highlights the expanding applications of Scrum beyond software development, including finance and healthcare. He also explores the integration of AI in Scrum methodologies, illustrating its potential to enhance team productivity and transform traditional processes, making work more efficient and effective across industries.

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Apr 28, 2025 • 39min
Adrienne Braganza Tacke: Code Review Patterns & Principles - Episode 347
Adrienne Braganza Tacke is a software development engineer at DebtTrader and author passionate about STEM education. She shares her unique journey into tech and the unexpected paths that shaped her career. The conversation dives into the significance of effective code review patterns and how they enhance developer collaboration. Adrienne discusses common pitfalls in code reviews, emphasizing the need for clear communication and automation tools. The evolution of how developers communicate during reviews, including the role of chatbots, also sparks an engaging dialogue.