Comedian and co-host of The Infinite Monkey Cage Robin Ince (@robinince) returns to the podcast while on a North American tour to talk with Matt and Andy about the love of science, using stories and mythology to convey real concepts, the different levels of infinity, a James Webb telescope update, an illustration of how the universe's expansion affects our perception of galaxies, dolphins recognizing their friends by the taste of their pee and strange data coming from Voyager I and Robin's books The Importance of Being Interested and the upcoming Bibliomaniac.