Kate has a revelatory moment about a project she’s working on and Doree does a shoe clean-out. Then, Dr. Pooja Lakshmin joins them on the podcast to talk about what the difference is between real and faux self-care as defined in her new book Real Self Care, how to start thinking differently about how you spend your time, and what she learned from quitting her job, getting divorced and accidentally joining a cult in her 20s.

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