

Ep. #233: Curiosity & Creating Sense in a World of Nonsense, with Saul Perlmutter
May 30, 2024
Saul Perlmutter, a Nobel laureate and renowned physics professor, shares his insights on fostering curiosity in today’s complex world. He emphasizes the power of 'third millennium thinking,' advocating for collaboration and optimism in addressing challenges. The conversation explores the importance of balancing confidence with self-doubt, using skiing as a metaphor for embracing uncertainty. Perlmutter encourages playful curiosity, showing how it can dissolve misconceptions and spur innovative thinking.
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Defining Third Millennium Thinking
- Third millennium thinking reveals new trends that enable progress through collective scientific reasoning.
- It combines facts with values and emotions to navigate complex decisions effectively.
Collaborative Teaching Story
- Saul Perlmutter, John Campbell, and Robert McCoon teach their course together, modeling collaborative reasoning.
- They demonstrate openly grappling with differing perspectives to enrich learning and problem-solving.
Problems as Experiments
- Viewing problems as manageable experiments fosters curiosity and progress instead of fear.
- Overcoming fear and working together enables us to solve large-scale issues like climate change.