The Overcomers with Matt Chandler

Authentic Leadership

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Mar 11, 2025
Pastors Leonce Crump and Joby Martin share their journeys through the pressures of leadership, discussing resilience in the face of burnout and doubt. Leonce reflects on his heartbreak and how nature rejuvenated his spirit, while Joby recalls a moment he nearly quit ministry, nudged back by his wife. They explore the delicate balance of public life and family, advocating for authenticity in leadership and protecting their children from public scrutiny. Together, they emphasize leaning on faith during tough times and the value of community support.
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Leonce's Difficult Season

  • Leonce Crump experienced heartbreaking years from 2019-2021.
  • He faced a church coup, the suicide of a friend, and his brother's battle with cancer.
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Joby's Near Miss

  • Joby Martin almost left ministry in 2001 due to feeling like he wasn't in the right environment.
  • His wife encouraged him to try one more time before selling caskets.
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Matt's Empty Suit Season

  • Matt Chandler felt like an "empty suit" for five years, relying on talent, not conviction.
  • A confrontation by God at the Brazos River prompted his repentance and return to conviction-led leadership.
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