Intro

Leadership under pressure is no joke. Pastors Leonce Crump and Joby Martin open up about the weight of responsibility—when betrayal, exhaustion, and doubt threaten to take you out. Leonce shares about seasons of heartbreak that nearly broke him, and Joby talks about burnout, even in a thriving ministry. This isn’t just about pushing through—it’s about leaning into Jesus when you’re running on empty.

What keeps you in the fight? Joby almost walked away from ministry, ready to sell caskets instead—until his wife nudged him to give it one more shot. Matt shares about hitting a wall, realizing he was leading from fumes instead of fresh conviction. And Leonce? He found renewal not just in faith, but in reconnecting with the outdoors and rediscovering the things that replenish his soul.

How do you stay grounded in public life? These guys talk about balancing leadership with raising kids, protecting their families from unfair expectations, and keeping their faith real. If you’re feeling worn out or wondering how to keep going, this conversation is for you.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

• Pastoral Leaders Discuss Resilience and Overcoming
• Leaders Embrace Growth and Restoration
• Navigating Public Life and Family Pressure
• Balancing Ministry and Family Life
• Ministry Shift

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Joby Martin

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