The Neutral Wisdom Podcast The "Human Experience" of Disability - with Reverend Robert Leuthold and Citizen Zac Verrill
Jul 9, 2025
Reverend Robert Leuthold, an esteemed Church of Satan member known for his insights on Satanism, joins Zac Verrill, a content creator and fellow Satanist living with a disability. They dive into the complexities of the human experience, discussing societal perceptions of disability and the importance of individuality. The conversation touches on navigating relationships, the impact of eugenics, and how humor plays a role in resilience. Their candid reflections invite listeners to reconsider stigma and embrace deeper connections and understanding.
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Ignoring the Person Behind Disability
- Robert Shirley admitted he used to see only the disability, not the individual behind it.
- This realization came after hearing Zach describe the common over-simplified reactions people have to disabilities.
Acceptance Varies by Environment
- Zach Verrill shared that in small towns people often only see the wheelchair and assume limitations.
- Moving to Vegas made him feel more accepted and treated like a normal adult.
Satanism Empowers Disabled Independence
- Satanism for them centers on independence and self-reliance despite disability.
- Their religion strengthens resilience and personal responsibility against societal limitations.
