In this episode, Gary's joined by Winnie Amoaku, UK Partnerships Manager at HiBob, to discuss the relationship between HR and L&D and what’s needed for it to flourish.

From their common audience and shared foundation, to how they collaborate to drive performance and retention, this is a brilliant conversation.

Running order

0:00 Intro to Winnie and her background

2:14 Roles and responsibilities for HR and L&D

5:30 The balance between hiring and upskilling

11:11 Discussing Amazon’s data-led upskilling

14:20 Making development part of employee benefits

19:00 Building the employer brand and the problem with losing knowledge

25:21 Tech frustrations and learner expectations

30:37 HR’s in tech adoption

How to connect

Find Winnie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/winnieamoaku/ 

Learn more about HiBob: https://www.hibob.com/ 

Read their latest research with CIPD: https://www.hibob.com/blog/research-hr-digital-transformation/ 

Find Gary on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-stringer-copywriter/ 

Learn more about HowNow: https://www.gethownow.com/