
The Commentary Magazine Podcast A Heritage of Shame
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Nov 3, 2025 Eliana Johnson, a conservative journalist and former Washington Free Beacon editor, joins as a new colleague. She dives into the crisis at the Heritage Foundation, questioning why CEO Kevin Roberts defended Tucker Carlson after his controversial interview with extremist Nick Fuentes. The discussion touches on how these actions could undermine conservative institutions and reshape conservative discourse. Eliana also explores the implications of anti-Israel sentiments within the GOP and the importance of strong conservative responses to extremist rhetoric.
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Heritage's Crisis From Defending Carlson
- Kevin Roberts's defense of Tucker Carlson signaled a wider attempt to mainstream extremist views within conservative institutions.
- That move created a major self-inflicted crisis for the Heritage Foundation and exposed its ideological turn.
Bid For Relevance Misreads Young Right
- Roberts sought relevance with younger, male conservative audiences by aligning with Carlson's orbit.
- That strategy misreads those audiences, who are anti-institutional and can destroy conservative institutions he hopes to court.
Two Tactical Lies From Extremist Defenders
- The defenders use two tactical lies: that any criticism equals anti-Semitism and that engaging equals censorship.
- The real issue is elevating and normalizing extremists, not banning conversation about them.








