

Self-Help is Not Salvation: An Orthodox Response to Wellness Culture w/ Special Guest Fr. John Wehling
In this episode of the Orthodox Health Podcast, Dr. Michael Christian & co-host John are joined by special guest, Fr. John Wehling to discuss the inadequacies of contemporary self-care practices, the search for meaning in a secular world, & how Orthodoxy offers a holistic approach to health that encompasses both body & soul.
The conversation delves into personal journeys to Orthodoxy, the paradox of self-actualization, & the dangers of consumerism in shaping identity. Additionally, Fr. John discusses the nature of immortality, the hierachical relationship between the soul & the body, & the significance of sacraments in Orthodox Christianity.
He emphasizes the paradox of living & dying, the vampiric nature of seeking immortality apart from Christ, & the importance of faith in understanding the body as serving the soul. The discussion also touches on the cultural reflections of immortality & the Orthodox perspective on facing death.
Impactful Quotes:
- "You have to die to live."
- "The body serves the soul."
- "Even Lazarus died again."
Takeaways:
- Self-care trends often leave individuals feeling empty.
- Orthodoxy offers a different path to true healing.
- The journey to Orthodoxy can be transformative.
- Christianity is not just a belief system, but a way of life.
- The modern world struggles with identity & purpose.
- Self-actualization requires self-denial & sacrifice.
- Consumerism shapes our understanding of identity.
- True happiness comes from community & communion.
- The pursuit of immortality can lead to a vampiric nature, consuming others for fulfillment.
- True immortality is found through Christ, requiring a willingness to die to oneself.
- Christianity without the cross is a false representation of faith.
- The body is good but serves the soul, highlighting a hierarchical relationship.
- Sacraments are essential for the healing of both body & soul in Orthodox faith.
- Facing death is a crucial aspect of living a Christian life.
- The purpose of the Orthodox Church is to create relics, emphasizing the sanctity of the body.
- Christ's resurrection is the ultimate victory over death, offering hope for immortality.
- Cultural pursuits of immortality often lead to unhealthy behaviors & self-deception.
- Kettlebells > yoga, period.
Chapters:
00:00 Opener
01:30 Introduction to Self-Help Epidemic & Fr. John Wehling
03:49 Father John's Journey to Orthodoxy
09:47 The Search for a Way of Life
16:34 Self-Care vs. Orthodox Healing
23:52 The Role of Freedom & Identity in Modern Life
27:30 The Paradox of Self-Actualization
29:18 The Dangers of Self-Help Culture
31:32 Consumerism & Identity
36:35 Faith & the Body's Purpose
39:17 Living & Dying as a Christian
47:04 The Nature of Sacraments and Healing
51:26 Understanding Death & Resurrection
55:17 The Pursuit of Immortality & Its Implications
01:00:07 Facing Death & Embracing Life
01:01:59 Final Thoughts on Body, Soul, & Salvation
01:03:11 Outro
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