Clearer Thinking with Spencer Greenberg

What do socialism and effective altruism have in common? (with Garrison Lovely)

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Jun 26, 2024
Garrison Lovely, a freelance journalist known for his insightful work in The Nation and Jacobin, discusses the intersection of socialism and effective altruism. He explores how both movements confront societal inequality while debating capitalism's ability to alleviate poverty. The conversation extends to the ethical dilemmas of AI, contrasting motivations behind for-profit research, and the need for collaborative frameworks to ensure responsible AI development. Lovely reflects on his transformative experiences and the moral implications of consulting in government contexts.
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ANECDOTE

McKinsey Experience

  • Garrison Lovely's experience at McKinsey, particularly serving Rikers Island and ICE, shaped his leftist views.
  • Witnessing McKinsey's amorality and the focus on profits over ethical considerations was a turning point.
INSIGHT

AI Safety vs. AI Ethics

  • The AI safety and AI ethics communities clash due to differing perspectives on AI capabilities and inherent biases.
  • The AI safety group emphasizes potential existential threats, while the ethics group focuses on current harms like bias and misinformation.
INSIGHT

AI Ethics Critique of AI Safety

  • The AI ethics community often criticizes the AI safety community for focusing on abstract future scenarios rather than present harms.
  • This critique often frames the AI safety perspective as privileged, overlooking immediate negative impacts affecting vulnerable populations.
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