
EconTalk The Mattering Instinct (with Rebecca Newberger Goldstein)
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Jan 12, 2026 Rebecca Newberger Goldstein, a philosopher and author known for intertwining philosophy with fiction, explores the profound human need to matter. She discusses how this longing underpins social issues like loneliness and extremism. Goldstein outlines four strategies for seeking significance: transcendent, social, heroic, and competitive striving. She also touches on how mattering influences our relationships and parenting, the dangers of self-centeredness, and the broader political implications of unmet needs, making a compelling case for understanding our quest for validation.
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Entropy Explains Self-Fixation
- Entropy explains why living systems fight disorder and thus pay intense attention to themselves.
- Rebecca Newberger Goldstein links attention evolved to resisting entropy, which grounds the mattering instinct.
Reaching A Neo-Nazi Through Mattering
- Goldstein recounts befriending a former neo-Nazi and reaching him by addressing his longing to matter.
- She traced his attraction to extremist groups to promises that he 'mattered' as a white male amid a chaotic upbringing.
Default Mode Fuels Mattering
- Humans have a default mode network that orients attention inward when not focused externally.
- That inward attention creates an urge to justify our self-obsession, forming the mattering instinct.








