SpyCast An Interview with the CIA’s Former “Q”
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Dec 2, 2025 Bob Wallace, the former director of the CIA's Office of Technical Service, shares thrilling insights from his clandestine career. He discusses how he was selected for a role like 'Q' despite being an outsider. From innovative tactics using steganography to inserting listening devices in crucifixes, Bob recounts impressive operations, including using concealed trackers in awards to locate terrorists. He also explores the evolution of technology in spycraft, emphasizing adapting to rapid advancements like AI and maintaining unique operations in a world of surveillance.
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Trusted Operational Leadership Over Technical Expertise
- Bob Wallace was chosen to lead OTS despite lacking technical background because leadership trusted his operational judgment.
- He relied on hundreds of engineers to build gadgets while ensuring devices would actually work for field officers.
Mind Your Words With Contractors
- Be careful what you say around contractors because your position influences design choices.
- A casual comment can become a delivered product change with real programmatic consequences.
Steganography's Unlikely Origins
- The adult entertainment industry pioneered digital steganography that spies later adopted.
- OTS happily repurposed public technologies regardless of their origin for clandestine operations.
