On with Kara Swisher The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg on the Long-Term Consequences of Trump 2.0
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Jun 2, 2025 
Jeffrey Goldberg, Editor-in-chief of The Atlantic, shares his candid insights on the dynamics of Trump’s administration and the broader political landscape. He discusses Trump’s media tactics, emphasizing how attention often overshadowed national security. The conversation delves into political accountability, revealing critical intersections between mismanagement and public health. Goldberg also critiques the media's struggles to balance sensationalism with serious journalism, while addressing the challenges facing the Democratic Party in a digitally driven age.
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Trump Ignores National Security Risks
- Trump prioritized attention over national security, viewing leaks as personal attacks.
- This reflects a disregard for operational security and serious governance.
No National Security Improvement Seen
- No signs show improved security after SignalGate; government assumes foreign adversaries know Trump's communications.
- Technical constraints hinder fully secure communications for busy officials.
Inexperience Leads to Security Breaches
- Human failures, not just technical ones, cause security breaches in communication.
- Officials sometimes overshare sensitive operational details to show off or act important.
