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The New Era of Economic Warfare, With Edward Fishman

Mar 25, 2025
Edward Fishman, a senior research scholar at the Center on Global Energy Policy and adjunct professor at Columbia University, dives into the evolving landscape of economic warfare. He discusses the U.S.'s expanded use of financial and trade sanctions and their effectiveness in achieving foreign policy goals. Fishman highlights the complexities of sanctions against nations like Iran and Russia, and the strategic use of export controls against China. He emphasizes the U.S. dollar's role in global trade and the impact of tariffs versus sanctions on international relations.
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Quick takeaways

  • The evolution of U.S. economic sanctions has transformed from reliance on military enforcement to targeting financial institutions for greater effectiveness.
  • Current U.S. strategies involve using sanctions and export controls against adversaries like Russia and China to maintain geopolitical leverage and technological dominance.

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Conventional Wisdom on Economic Sanctions

The perception that economic sanctions do not work effectively emerged in the early 21st century, largely due to the lengthy UN embargo against Iraq, which lasted from 1990 to 2003. Despite the extensive military involvement and a multinational effort to enforce the sanctions, they failed to alter Saddam Hussein's decisions or significantly weaken his regime. This belief in the ineffectiveness of sanctions was further reinforced by discussions during the early George W. Bush administration, culminating in the decision to pursue military options in Iraq after sanctions were deemed ineffective. Historical examples, such as failed embargoes against Iran and the USSR, showcase a recurring notion that sanctions rarely yield the desired political outcomes.

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