

Jürgen De Smet (Your Chief Simplification Officer), Certified LeSS Trainer Interview - Part 1
How does Jurgen greet CEO's in an elevator?
By saying "Do you also find that this is a real mess out here!?" An unorthodox approach perhaps, but the way he delivers it must be heard!
In this episode, Your Chief Simplification Officer, Jürgen De Smet and host Ben Maynard got along very well, almost too well as they ended up speaking for almost 2 hours.
Brilliant conversation, too long for a podcast so we have split this into two parts.
This is Part 1 and in it, you can:
- How organisational change is like potty training a child (clue, it can be quite messy if you do not do it well)
- Find out the key to creating an effective elevator pitch
- Hear about how to balance the LeSS Adoption principle of Deep and Narrow in a 5000 person organisation where everyone is to be agile
- Learn about 4 different types of complexity that need to be addressed when simplifying your organisation
- Here about how LeSS does work with distributed teams (as well as co-located)
- Discover if LeSS is suitable for people who cannot yet think within the agile or LeSS principles and if not what are their options.
- Discover if you can ever say you have truely "Done" a LeSS Adoption
- Find out what Jurgen thinks of PMBOK and Prince 2 Agile
- Learn why you should not base LeSS useage decisions on conversations and what you should do instead
- Find out how Jurgen priototises his work to give him energy, not take it away
- Discover what kaikaku is
Seeing as we spoke for so long, in this episode we covered the following questions About LeSS
- What is your elevator pitch for LeSS?
- Did you choose LeSS or did LeSS choose you?
Stuff that was spoken about
Kaikaku
Jurgen de Smet: From idea towards a LeSS kaikaku @LeSS Day Europe 2020 (Scrum Ukraine)
Host Bio
Ben is a seasoned expert in product agility coaching, unleashing the potential of people and products. With over a decade of experience, his focus now is product-led growth & agility in organisations of all sizes.
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