This episode was originally broadcast as part of the limited art artist series from 2022. Sam Taylor-Johnson is an artist, photographer, and film-director - and she has been a friend of Ruthie’s since the day they met at the Tate gallery in 1998.

Listen to their memories of children, food, music and art from this episode of Ruthie's Table 4's.

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