The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill 430. AMMA — What Separates The Pros From The Rest
The people slowing you down aren't always the ones you'd expect, and they're closer than you think.
In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill break down the three types of people who quietly drain your time, energy, and momentum, and why distancing yourself from them is one of the most important leadership decisions you can make. From the ones who talk in circles to the idea generators who never execute, to the "must be nice" crowd who confuse luck with sacrifice, this conversation is a tactical guide to protecting your bandwidth and building a culture of accountability.
Here's what you'll learn:
- Why the people who say the most often have the least to offer, and how to identify when someone is avoiding accountability
- How to separate real initiative from empty ideation, and why ideas without execution are just hallucinations
- What the "must be nice" mindset reveals about envy, effort, and the victim mentality that holds people back
This episode is your reminder that who you surround yourself with determines how far you go, so choose carefully.
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00:02:07 - The three types of people that will get in the way of your growth
00:06:02 - The Mexico vacation story and what people don't see behind success
00:07:02 - Abundance mindset vs. zero-sum thinking
00:10:05 - You can't change people, but you can align incentives with their goals
00:12:23 - Nature vs. nurture: the role of childhood trauma and intrinsic drive
00:13:40 - Why you can't teach hungry and screening for it during hiring
00:15:56 - The importance of clarity and trial roles before promotion
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Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.
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