In this episode, Matt and Andrew reflect on the events of 2023 and how it shaped their perspectives on neurodiversity and neurodivergence. They discuss the frustrations and investigations they faced in the first quarter of the year, including their involvement in a BBC investigation on ADHD assessments. They also share their experiences of contract termination and the challenges of whistleblowing. As they navigate through April and May, they discuss the launch of their own clinical service and the uncertainty surrounding the airing of the Panorama episode. Overall, they highlight the importance of speaking out and advocating for change in the face of adversity. This part of the conversation covers the challenges of starting a business, balancing personal and professional life, recognition in the ADHD community, backlash from the documentary, involvement in the World Congress, personal backlash and misunderstandings, learning to hold tongue and manage responses, difficulties in running the business, resonating with Andrew's honesty, gaining confidence and using AI for fact-checking, medication shortages and their impact on the ADHD community, considering closing the business, and increasing passion and commitment. In this episode, Andrew Jay and Matt discuss various themes related to personal growth, authenticity, and the importance of understanding different perspectives. Andrew shares his experience of feeling patronized and the frustration of being labeled a victim. They also discuss the significance of strong principles and the need to choose battles wisely. The conversation delves into the nature of truth and the importance of remaining hopeful. Andrew emphasizes the value of taking a step back and approaching situations with grace and open-mindedness. They conclude by highlighting the importance of being comfortable in one's own skin and spreading messages of change and understanding.
00:00 Introduction and Setting the Stage
03:13 January to March 2023: Frustrations and Investigations
13:13 March 2023: Contract Termination and Whistleblowing
18:24 April to May 2023: Uncertainty and Launching the Service
44:36 April to May 2023: Panorama and Divergence
49:05 Challenges of Starting a Business
50:06 Balancing Personal and Professional Life
51:03 Recognition in the ADHD Community
52:34 Maintaining a Low Profile
53:36 Backlash from the Documentary
56:00 Involvement in the World Congress
57:57 Personal Backlash and Misunderstandings
01:01:06 Learning to Hold Tongue and Manage Responses
01:03:17 Difficulties in Running the Business
01:05:09 Building Trust and Honest Conversations
01:09:41 Resonating with Andrew's Honesty
01:12:42 Gaining Confidence and Using AI for Fact-Checking
01:17:28 Medication Shortages and Impact on ADHD Community
01:21:26 Considering Closing the Business
01:26:14 Increasing Passion and Commitment
01:32:28 Impact of Medication Shortages
01:36:18 Feeling Patronized
01:37:09 Being a Victim
01:37:52 Personal Growth and Grounding
01:38:54 Choosing Battles and Adversaries
01:39:52 Strong Principles
01:41:14 The Nature of Truth
01:43:18 Remaining Hopeful
01:44:09 Taking a Step Back
01:44:46 Approaching 2023
01:45:25 Take What You Need and Leave the Rest
01:46:13 Being Comfortable in Your Own Skin
01:47:46 Wanting Things to Change
01:48:29 Evolution of Understanding
01:48:58 Gratitude for Honesty
01:49:55 Spreading the Message
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