The world economy has undergone massive transformation with COVID-19. There will be an even bigger upheaval as climate change takes hold. How do we prepare for the economic changes it will bring about. The way of coping with the virus emergency has been unprecedented levels of government intervention. Does that mean the only way to transition to a greener economy is through public funding, or can the private sector carry the can? And who manages the transition? Phil Dobbie talks to Prof Steve Keen.

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