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What the f*?! Is Flight Levels (with Cliff Hazell, Ex Spotify and Co-Creator of Flight Levels)

Jan 26, 2023
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Cliff Hazell, ex-Spotify and Co-Founder of Flight Levels with Kalus Leopold is an expert on organisational change, systems, agile and Kanban. In this practical and somewhat philosophical episode, Cliff and I explore some meaty topics that Agile Coaches, Product People, Scrum Masters, damned pretty much anyone with interest in organisational change will love.

This is the third of three episodes that Cliff and I recorded

In this one, we speak about ...

  • 2:29 - Why and How did Flight Levels come into existence (includes a brilliant metaphor)
  • 6:21 - A Parallel between Flight Levels and Large Scale Scrum?
  • 09:04 - Can there ever be one true way to achieve organisational agility?
  • 10:14 - Are we solving the right problems?
  • 11:56 - Flight Levels = Genius Marketing?
  • 16:14 - Ahmad Fahmy’s Gemba Sprints
  • 17:23 - Doe’s Flight Levels get leaders down to Gemba? (the palace of actual work)
  • 21:37 - Will Flight Levels ever partner with any other approaches?
  • 26:23 - What is the future for Flight Levels

And all this!

  • What is Flight Levels?
  • What did Cliff do before co-founding Flight Levels?
  • What is it if the challenge is not to get teams to perform better at achieving their outcomes?
  • Cliff shared a brilliant Typewriter based metaphor to explain why organisations fail that even your granny would understand. 
  • What is the right information that organisations need? 
  • Does it pay to be dogmatic about the terminology we use?
  • Should every problem we find be solved now?
  • How do Fight levels share pain around to make change happen?
  • What is the issue with the prevailing system of Technology (not Product ) companies?
  • Can coordination and visualising it create transparency and unlock opportunities for the future?
  • Will there ever be one framework to rule them all?
  •  The future for Flight Levels will be looking at, in a post-covid world, exploring new ways to engage, self-paced content 

Useful Links
Cliff Hazel - https://www.linkedin.com/in/cliffhazell/
Flight Levels Academy - https://www.flightlevels.io/

Host Bio

Ben is a seasoned expert in product agility coaching, unleashing the potential of people and products. With over a decade of experience, his focus now is product-led growth & agility in organisations of all sizes.

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