This week, as Clay Jenkinson puts it, “a really difficult conversation about an essential subject.” Jenkinson and Professor Joseph Ellis discuss their thoughts about which memorials, statues, place names, etc., should be taken down, which should be kept and, hopefully, how we can come to better understand this issue.

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