

Talking ‘Him,’ Biracial Identity, and Athleticism With Tyriq Withers! Plus, the Back-and-Forth With Stephen A. and Jimmy Kimmel’s Return. | Higher Learning | The Ringer
Sep 26, 2025
Tyriq Withers, an actor from the film 'Him,' joins the conversation to discuss his experience in the emotionally powerful sports-horror film and the physical challenges of portraying an athlete. He opens up about navigating biracial identity, his choice to embrace Black culture, and the complexities that come with white-passing privilege. The discussion also touches on audience reactions to the film, the artistic process, and why provoking meaningful conversation is more important than universal acclaim.
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Strategy Vs. Capitulation Debate
- Van and Rachel dispute Stephen A. Smith's "operate accordingly" framing and stress meeting moments with organized, protective disruption.
- They argue strategy should protect communities while confronting power, not silently accommodate it.
Contribute In Small Practical Ways
- Van urges everyone to contribute in ways that fit them and support those taking risks rather than shame inaction.
- Do small civic actions like voting or volunteering instead of expecting others to carry all burdens.
Gym Talk With Theo Vaughn
- Van describes a cordial gym confrontation with comedian Theo Vaughn where he expressed disappointment about political choices.
- He emphasizes addressing criticism directly when given the chance rather than talking about someone behind their back.