Tim Knowles and Amit Sevak on What To Do with the Carnegie Unit
Jul 19, 2023
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Amit Sevak, CEO of ETS, and Tim Knowles, 10th president of the Carnegie Foundation, discuss rethinking assessment and measurement in education. They explore the need for a skills-based approach, addressing inequities, building portraits of graduates, and measuring skills that matter. They highlight the importance of flexibility, quick feedback, and a shared understanding of educational activities.
Empowering individuals through skill progression is crucial in creating an inclusive education system that provides mobility, confidence, and improved job prospects.
Measuring and assessing skills requires evolving assessment models, leveraging AI, and exploring new methods to provide timely and actionable feedback on skill development.
Deep dives
Shift towards skill-based education and assessment
The podcast discusses the need for a shift towards a skill-based approach in education and assessment. Employers report a lack of transferable and durable skills in graduates, such as leadership, collaboration, communication, and creativity. The podcast highlights three key questions: which competencies to focus on, how to provide opportunities for students to learn these competencies, and how to assess proficiency in these competencies. The partnership between ETS and Carnegie aims to address the complex challenge of assessing competencies and developing a common skills framework. The focus is on building a skills-based education system that emphasizes mastery of skills rather than time-based learning.
Empowering individuals through skill progression
A key takeaway from the podcast is the importance of empowering individuals through skill progression. The vision is to create an educational ecosystem where individuals have opportunities to measure and demonstrate skill development. This shift to prioritizing skills as the currency of education is seen as a game-changer, providing mobility, confidence, and improved job prospects. The podcast emphasizes the need for an inclusive and equitable education system that encourages individuals to continuously learn and acquire new skills throughout their lives. The Mastery Transcript Consortium is highlighted as an organization driving the movement towards skill-based transcripts.
Addressing the challenges of measuring skills
The podcast highlights the challenges of measuring and assessing skills. It recognizes that traditional assessment models focused on content-based learning need to evolve to accurately measure the development of durable skills. The partnership between ETS and Carnegie aims to leverage research advancements and technological innovation to develop more effective and holistic assessments. This includes embracing AI and exploring new assessment methods that move beyond traditional standardized tests. The goal is to provide individuals with timely and actionable feedback on their skills, enabling them to pursue targeted learning experiences and demonstrate skill progression.
Opportunity for growth and collaboration
The podcast emphasizes that the current moment presents a unique opportunity for growth and collaboration in education. With increasing awareness of the limitations of traditional education systems, there is a growing recognition that change is needed to address inequities and better prepare individuals for a rapidly changing world. The partnership between ETS and Carnegie is positioned as part of a broader movement towards reimagining education and creating a more adaptable and skill-focused system. The podcast encourages educators, policymakers, and organizations to join this transformative journey and work together to unlock the potential of individuals through skill-based learning and assessment.
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On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Nate McClennen is joined by Amit Sevak, the CEO of ETS, the largest private educational assessment organization in the world and Tim Knowles, the 10th president of the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching. Both Amit and Tim are long-term education leaders and entrepreneurs who have focused their careers on creating better opportunities for more people through education.
Together, they have formed a new partnership to rethink assessment and measurement.