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Getting Smart Podcast

Tim Knowles and Amit Sevak on What To Do with the Carnegie Unit

Jul 19, 2023
Amit Sevak, CEO of ETS, and Tim Knowles, 10th president of the Carnegie Foundation, discuss rethinking assessment and measurement in education. They explore the need for a skills-based approach, addressing inequities, building portraits of graduates, and measuring skills that matter. They highlight the importance of flexibility, quick feedback, and a shared understanding of educational activities.
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  • Empowering individuals through skill progression is crucial in creating an inclusive education system that provides mobility, confidence, and improved job prospects.
  • Measuring and assessing skills requires evolving assessment models, leveraging AI, and exploring new methods to provide timely and actionable feedback on skill development.

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Shift towards skill-based education and assessment

The podcast discusses the need for a shift towards a skill-based approach in education and assessment. Employers report a lack of transferable and durable skills in graduates, such as leadership, collaboration, communication, and creativity. The podcast highlights three key questions: which competencies to focus on, how to provide opportunities for students to learn these competencies, and how to assess proficiency in these competencies. The partnership between ETS and Carnegie aims to address the complex challenge of assessing competencies and developing a common skills framework. The focus is on building a skills-based education system that emphasizes mastery of skills rather than time-based learning.

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