In this conversation, Brian Zahnd and Jonathan Martin explore the intersection of faith, misinformation, and political engagement within Christianity. They discuss the implications of eschatology on Christian belief, and the importance of love and compassion in political discourse. Zahnd emphasizes the need for a more profound understanding of the cross and God's nature, while also addressing the challenges of racism during a volatile election season. The conversation culminates in a reflection on how eschatology shapes the narrative of faith, and the call for Christians to embody joy and love amidst societal challenges. Along the way, they talk about reinterpreting Revelation, their own personal conversion experiences, and rethinking of hell and salvation. Ultimately, they emphasize the importance of scaffolding during/after the deconstruction process, and the need for a deeper experience of faith that transcends destructive dogmas.

This is truly overhearing an intimate conversation between friends. We are especially grateful that Brian gave us an exclusive inside peek to some of the writing he's working on now, that hasn't been shared anywhere else before now!