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Talking to Political Scientist Henry Farrell with Max Read

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Feb 27, 2025

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Henry Farrell

Henry Farrell, a political scientist at Johns Hopkins and author of 'Underground Empire,' dives into the complex interplay between tech and politics. He critiques the 'great man theory' dominating Silicon Valley’s ideological landscape, discussing how key texts influence leadership. Farrell unpacks the Pizzagate conspiracy, highlighting social media's role in distorting public perception. He warns against the dangers of micro-targeting in political communication and optimistically navigates the potential futures of society amidst technological upheaval.

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Silicon Valley Reading List

The "Silicon Valley Canon" reveals a focus on "great man" narratives and system-level thinking.
This shapes their understanding of power and their role in changing the world.

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Ayn Rand and Silicon Valley

Elon Musk tweeted an Ayn Rand meme, reflecting a "great man" ideology.
However, Silicon Valley adapts ideas to justify their desires, often misinterpreting complex works.

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Systems and Power

The Silicon Valley canon shows an interest in systems and how players interact within them.
This differs from Ayn Rand's focus on individual heroism and bureaucratic obstacles.

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Silicon Valley's Ideological Landscape

01:37 • 22min

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Understanding Pizzagate and Social Media's Impact

23:41 • 16min

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The Impact of Social Algorithms on Political Perception

40:07 • 4min

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The Dangers of Micro-Targeting in Political Communication

44:26 • 2min

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The Future: Chaos or Control?

46:39 • 8min

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Underground Empire

Henry Farrell

Abraham Newman

In "Underground Empire: How America Weaponized the World Economy," Henry Farrell and Abraham Newman delve into the intricate ways in which the US government has leveraged its control over key economic and informational choke points to exert global influence. The book examines how this strategic control has shaped international relations and economic power dynamics. Farrell and Newman analyze various case studies, illustrating how the US has used its position to shape global markets and political outcomes. The authors explore the implications of this power dynamic for global stability and cooperation. The book offers a critical perspective on the role of the US in the global economy and its impact on international relations.

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This week on our untitled, unofficial, occasional podcast, Max Read of Read Max and I hosted our second guest: political scientist Henry Farrell, professor at Johns Hopkins University and writer of the tech and politics Substack Programmable Mutter, which we both follow with great interest. Farrell, with Abraham Newman, is the author of Underground Empire: How America Weaponized the World Economy.

We had Farrell on to discuss his recent piece for Bloomberg on the “tech canon,” entitled, “Silicon Valley’s Reading List Reveals Its Political Ambitions.” We also wanted to discuss Henry’s newsletter from January: “We're getting the social media crisis wrong: The bigger problem isn't disinformation. It's degraded democratic publics,” a very generative rethink of the often stale discourse around social media. It was a really fun, enlightening, and even strangely optimistic chat that ranged from democratic theory to sci-fi to whether or not we should reasonably fear a techno-totalitarian future. (I’m gonna give a spoiler and tell you now Henry thinks not, just in case you need a little pick me up.)

Some things we discussed:

* James C Scott’s book Seeing Like A State

* Tanner Greer’s post “The Silicon Valley Canon: On the Paıdeía of the American Tech Elite”

* Hahrie Han and Elizabeth McKenna’s book Groundbreakers: How Obama's 2.2 Million Volunteers Transformed Campaigning in America

* Minds Make Societies: How Cognition Explains the World Humans Create by Pascal Boyer

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