Ross and Brian Dunning and the UFO Movie THEY Don’t Want You to See
Aug 28, 2023
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Ross talks with Brian Dunning about his film on UFOs, exploring the chances of intelligent alien life and assembling a dream team for investigations. They discuss Jimmy Carter's UFO sighting, intriguing phenomena like sweeping headlights, and the importance of analyzing sightings before drawing conclusions. They also explore the water hole frequency for interplanetary communication and the difficulties faced by scientists and communicators in the field.
The scientific likelihood of intelligent alien life existing in the universe is supported by the discovery of exoplanets and our understanding of carbon chemistry and biosignatures.
The Fermi paradox explores the lack of contact or detection of intelligent alien civilizations, highlighting the complexity and improbability of civilizations aligning in both space and time.
The limitations imposed by the laws of physics, particularly the speed of light, make interstellar travel and regular alien visitations unlikely due to the vast distances and time scales involved.
The absence of direct contact or grand-scale events suggests that if significantly advanced civilizations capable of interstellar travel exist, they have not made their presence known, bringing into question the occurrence of regular visitations.
Deep dives
The prospects of intelligent life in the universe
The podcast episode starts by discussing the scientific likelihood of intelligent life existing in the universe. The host explains that many scientists and astronomers believe that there is a high probability of intelligent life beyond Earth. This is supported by the discovery of numerous exoplanets and the understanding of carbon chemistry and biosignatures. While the distance between civilizations and the limitations of current technology pose challenges for direct contact, the possibility of an alien astrobiologist observing Earth from a distance is statistically plausible.
The Christmas tree problem
The podcast touches on the Fermi paradox and explores the idea that if intelligent alien civilizations exist, why haven't they made contact or been detected? The host explains the concept of the Christmas tree problem, where civilizations must not only be close in distance but also exist concurrently in order to make contact. The analogy of blinking lights on a Christmas tree highlights the complexity and improbability of civilizations aligning in both space and time. The host emphasizes that this is an ongoing scientific question with no definitive answer, but the vast possibilities of civilizations coming and going over the history of the universe.
Exploring the limitations of interstellar travel
The podcast delves into the challenges of interstellar travel and the limitations imposed by the laws of physics. The host clarifies that the speed of light is an insurmountable barrier, making it unlikely for civilizations to physically visit each other's solar systems in a practical timeframe. The discussion focuses on the need for civilizations to exist in close proximity both spatially and temporally to overcome these barriers. The host proposes that the vast distances and time scales involved make it rare for civilizations to align, casting doubt on the idea of regular alien visitations.
The absence of direct contact and the White House lawn scenario
The podcast addresses the absence of direct contact between Earth and potential alien civilizations. The host highlights the absence of dramatic events like alien landings on the White House lawn, arguing that if there were a significantly advanced civilization capable of crossing interstellar distances, they would have made their presence known on a grand scale. The absence of such events, along with the challenges of distance and time, reinforces the idea that direct contact or regular visitations have not yet occurred.
Podcast Summary
The podcast episode explores the topics of belief in extraterrestrial life and the importance of skeptics in UFO discussions. The speaker highlights how a significant percentage of Americans already believe in aliens visiting Earth, challenging the notion that people are not ready for such knowledge. The role of key experts, such as Mick West, in analyzing UFO sightings is emphasized, with praise for his clear and well-structured explanations. The importance of diverse perspectives, including skeptics, in UFO task forces and governmental committees is discussed, emphasizing their experience in identifying natural explanations for sightings. The concept of the 'low information zone' is introduced, referring to phenomena that lack clear evidence or fall outside the range of our sensors, highlighting the challenges in investigating UFO reports. The episode concludes by considering the potential for future communication with extraterrestrial life and the need for scientific skepticism in this field.
Filming Challenges and Hypothermia
During the production of the accompanying UFO documentary, the host experienced hypothermia while filming in the desert at night. Initially unaware of his condition, his speech became slurred, resembling intoxication. Recognizing the symptoms, the crew abandoned the shoot after the fourth chapter. After seeking medical advice, consuming hot water, and briefly falling asleep, the team regrouped early the following morning to complete the remaining chapters as the sun rose. The incident highlights the unpredictable nature of film production and the determination to capture the desired footage despite adversity.
Closing Thoughts and Call for Skepticism
The podcast episode and the accompanying documentary encourage critical thinking and skepticism in the study of UFO phenomena. The importance of being open to scientific evidence, considering diverse perspectives, and valuing the expertise of skeptics is emphasized. The episode concludes by expressing a belief in the possibility of future communication with extraterrestrial life and the excitement that comes with seeking a greater understanding of our universe.
Ross talks with Brian Dunning of Skeptoid about his new film The UFO Movie THEY Don’t Want You To See. What are the chances of intelligent alien life existing elsewhere in the universe, and what is the likelihood of us striking up a conversation? How do you assemble a dream team to investigate UFO claims? Does Jimmy Carter still believe he saw a UFO, or has the FO been I? Plus, Brian shares some of his own sightings and their fascinating solutions.
