Former intelligence officer David Grusch recently appeared before Congress, claiming that the US government possesses extraterrestrial vehicles and alien bodies. How credible are these claims and how should the government respond? Brian Dunning, host of The Skeptoid podcast and "The UFO Movie THEY Don't Want You To See," joins the discussion on UFOs and the government's knowledge.

Brian Dunning, a writer, producer, and UFO investigator, dives into the surge of recent drone sightings, particularly in New Jersey. He critiques the ensuing public panic and the conspiracy theories that cloud the truth, advocating for critical thinking. Dunning humorously addresses wild drone scenarios and the imagination behind them, assuring listeners of their safety while playfully suggesting a tinfoil hat might be a good idea. His insights illuminate the psychological aspects of mass hysteria and the importance of discernment in the age of misinformation.

Brian Dunning, an expert on critical thinking, science and skepticism, joins Josh to discuss the lack of scientific evidence for UFOs, the escalation of interest in UFOs, hypothetical actions of humans and aliens, the scarcity of high-quality UFO photos and videos, the role of evidence in establishing truth, skepticism and the pursuit of truth, and debunking myths about the Bermuda Triangle and controversy of broadcasting into the universe.