Grant Jones, musician, contemplative, researcher, and activist, discusses blending music, psychology, contemplation, and activism. They explore music and mindfulness for healing race-based anxiety, collaborating with notable musicians, the absence of research on black music, pleasure activism, balancing structure and freedom, the Black Lotus Collective, and the link between psychedelics and meditation.
Grant Jones is working to bridge the gap between music, psychology, contemplation, and activism, particularly focusing on the healing power of black music.
Grant Jones's research underscores the need for more diverse representation and culturally sensitive approaches in psychedelic research and therapy, highlighting the associations between psychedelics, mental health outcomes, and race and ethnicity.
Deep dives
The Healing Power of Music
Music, especially black music, has a long history as a force for healing and resilience in the black community. Despite its significance, the scientific literature on the healing power of music is limited. Grant Jones, a musician, researcher, and activist, is working to bridge this gap. His PhD research involves developing a music-based mindfulness intervention called Healing Attempt, which combines originally composed music, guided meditations, and poetry to center the black American experience. Grant's work aims to reduce race-based anxiety in underserved populations. He has also conducted research on psychedelics and their potential benefits, particularly for communities of color. This work is shedding light on the associations between psychedelics, mental health outcomes, and race and ethnicity. Grant's research underscores the need for more diverse representation and culturally sensitive approaches in psychedelic research and therapy.
Integrating Music, Meditation, and Activism
Grant Jones's exploration of the healing potential of music is deeply personal. Music has always been a spiritual practice for Grant, one that offers grounding and support. Through collaborations with musicians like Esperanza Spalding and La Marad Owens, Grant is seeking to blend music and meditation for healing, while also addressing issues of race and ethnicity. His music-based mindfulness intervention, Healing Attempt, is designed to center and support marginalized communities. Grant's work is a beautiful example of integrating different aspects of his life and values, as well as his commitment to social activism and the pursuit of joy in his work.
Investigating Psychedelics with a Critical Lens
Grant Jones has been actively studying the potential benefits and limitations of psychedelics within the field of psychology. His research is focused on large-scale epidemiological data sets, which have shown associations between psychedelic use and lower odds of psychological distress and harmful mental health outcomes. However, Grant's work highlights an important blind spot within psychedelic research: the lack of representation and investigation of communities of color. By examining how race and ethnicity may impact these associations, Grant's research reveals that the positive associations found in majority white samples may not hold for communities of color. This underscores the need for more inclusive and culturally sensitive research in the field of psychedelics.
Embracing Paradox and Finding Joy
Grant Jones's journey in music, meditation, and activism has been guided by a deep sense of joy and a desire to explore the interconnectedness of these practices. Along the way, Grant has encountered challenges and hierarchies within academia, but has also experienced profound blessings, from supportive mentors and collaborators to transformative experiences within the Black Lotus Collective, a meditation community for historically marginalized identities. Through his work, Grant emphasizes the importance of embracing paradox, taking a curious and empirical approach, and finding joy in the process. His commitment to having a good time while making meaningful contributions to healing and well-being is both refreshing and inspiring.
In this episode, Wendy speaks with musician, contemplative, researcher, and activist Grant Jones. Grant is working to develop and implement contemplative and liberatory tools for underserved populations. This conversation covers many topics, including:
blending music, psychology, contemplation, and activism;
music and mindfulness for healing race-based anxiety;
collaborating with Lama Rod Owens, Esperanza Spalding, and others;
the absence of research on black music;
music medicine vs. music therapy;
pleasure activism as a form of disruption;
balancing structure and freedom;
the Black Lotus Collective;
links between psychedelics and meditation;
potential benefits and harm of psychedelic treatment, and how race plays in;
the power of music to transcend language and culture;
balancing identity with non-self;
and letting go, having fun, and not being too serious.