Dr. Matthew Barrett, author of 'Simply Trinity: The Unmanipulated Father, Son, and Spirit,' discusses the implications of the Trinity for our society and the controversy surrounding the terms 'Father' and 'Son.' They explore the concept of a social Trinity, the impact of hierarchy and gender politics, and the understanding of God as Father.
Dr. Matthew Barrett explores the need to reexamine the classical understanding of the Trinity and assert that the language used to define it should reflect its biblical and theological context, rather than societal or political agendas.
Dr. Barrett emphasizes the need to appreciate the analogical use of the names 'Father' and 'Son' in the Trinity and warns against projecting human experiences and gender roles onto the Triune God, advocating for a deeper engagement with the biblical witness and theological tradition to understand the profound mysteries of the Father, Son, and Spirit.
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Challenging the Notion of an 'Unmanipulated' Trinity
The podcast delves into a conversation about the concept of the Trinity with Dr. Matthew Barrett, exploring his latest book, Simply Trinity. Dr. Barrett grapples with the question of whether the modern understanding of the Trinity has been manipulated and distorted, particularly in relation to the idea of Eternal Functional Subordination (EFS). He argues that the classical understanding of the Trinity needs to be reexamined, asserting that the language used to define the Trinity should reflect its biblical and theological context, rather than being shaped by societal or political agendas.
Examining the Relationship Between Practical and Philosophical Approaches to Theology
The podcast conversation delves into the tension between practical and philosophical approaches to theology, particularly when it comes to understanding the Trinity. Dr. Barrett highlights the importance of considering both aspects: the practical implications of the Trinity for individuals and communities, as well as the philosophical and metaphysical understandings of God's nature. He suggests that a balanced approach requires recognizing and embracing both aspects, acknowledging the significance of contemplating God in and of himself, while also appreciating the role of the Trinity in informing our worship, fellowship, and relationships.
Exploring Eternal Generation and the Names of the Father and Son
The podcast delves into a detailed exploration of eternal generation and its relation to the names of the Father and Son in the Trinity. The discussion raises questions about why specific names such as 'Father' and 'Son' are used, and how they should be understood beyond their simply being fromness and generation. Dr. Barrett emphasizes the need to appreciate the analogical use of these names, recognizing that while they convey something true, they also highlight the uniqueness and distinction of the persons within the Trinity. The conversation also touches on the danger of projecting human experiences and gender roles onto the Triune God, calling for a deeper engagement with the biblical witness and theological tradition to grasp the profound mysteries of the Father, Son, and Spirit.
Punching back against Eternal Functional Subordination theory, Dr. Matthew Barrett has written Simply Trinity: The Unmanipulated Father, Son, and Spirit. Matthew, Derek, and Alastair have questions. If you’ve ever wondered why God gave us the names “Father” and “Son,” or what implications the Trinity has for our society, then this is the conversation for you. (Some free copies of Dr. Barrett’s book are available for the Merrie Band of Patreon Supporters.)
Full show notes at www.mereorthodoxy.com/categories/mere-fidelity.
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