Mickey and Jeremy express confusion about why there is a need to coin the phrase 'for them' when it has always been understood that the purpose of the fire service is to serve the civilians. The discussion touches on the importance of safety culture, the prioritization of saving civilians over firefighter safety, and the need for clear communication and understanding of the job's expectations. The conversation also explores the role of teaching and training in firefighting, the importance of perspective and background in learning, and the need for experienced firefighters to mentor and guide new recruits. The speaker emphasizes the significance of standards, the loss of experience in the fire service, and the need to maintain and uphold those standards.