

🎙️ Returning to Our Bodies with Barry Lee
Barry Lee's art is beautiful without being precious, whimsical but sturdy, absurd and deeply relatable, disrupts traditional beauty standards and is absolutely stunning. As a disabled and non-binary artist, they offer us a bright and playful world with a warmest, gentlest gut-punch. There was SO MUCH we wanted to talk with them about. Like when did Barry learn to separate from their body? How are they finding their way back? And what does art have to do with any of it? The conversation that unspooled spanned from early medical trauma to the curious things our grad school professors said that shaped our life arcs to an exploration of what we're moving toward today. They gave us so much to think about💛
Tune In to Hear Us Talk About:
🩺 How Barry learned early that their disabled body didn't belong to them.
📓 The artifact from the past Barry's mom gave them that prompted a turn toward embodiment.
😷 The near-death experience that taught Barry to trust their body.
🗓️ Why Barry likes the word practice to describe learning to be in their body.
💌 The entirely unique and expansive way that Barry defines accessibility.
✨ Invitations from disability and gender to dismantle.
🌱 Exploring what we are FOR (as opposed to simply against).
📦 Thinking outside of the box versus rearranging what's inside the box.
⚡️ Getting comfortable with being unpalatable.
🧳 Removing the shame that so often rests on top of suffering.
Mentioned In Today's Episode:
Gentle Reminders Journal: A Deep, Loving Guide to Help You Show Up for Yourself & Others
Barry's Instagram, Substack Portal Hopping, and website!
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We would love to hear from you! Do you share this history of disembodiment? How did/are you finding your way back?
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