Have we confined the true essence of sainthood within too narrow a boundary?
 In this episode of 'Voices with Vervaeke,' John Vervaeke welcomes Christopher Mastropeitro and Andrew Sweeny for a discussion that delves into the philosophical and spiritual dimensions of their innovative project, the Philosophical Silk Road. Together, they challenge contemporary notions of sainthood and wisdom, drawing connections between Zen Buddhism, Neoplatonism, and Tantric practices. Through personal anecdotes and reflective dialogue, the trio examines the essence of saints and sages, the importance of humor and humility in spiritual journeys, and the delicate balance between our finite existence and the quest for transcendence. Join John, Chris, and Andrew as they share their spiritual paths and encounters with saintly figures, advocating for a renewed appreciation of the sacred in our modern world.
  
 Andrew Sweeny is an educator, writer, musician, and podcaster. He teaches at Sciences Po University in Paris and is an editor at Parallax magazine. Sweeny explores Zen Buddhism, Tantric practices, and music through his media platform, Parallax, offering courses and podcasts.
 Christopher Mastropietro is a philosophical writer fascinated by dialogue, symbols, and the concept of self. He is the executive director and an active contributor to the Vervaeke Foundation, collaborating on projects exploring wisdom, spirituality, and transformative dialogue.
  
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 00:00 Introducing the Guests and the Philosophical Silk Road
 02:50 Andrew's Path: Zen, Tantra, and Music
 05:05 Exploring the Philosophical Silk Road
 07:00 Dialogos and Sacred Emergence
 10:40 Setting the Stage: Connecting Zen, Neoplatonism, and Theurgy
 21:40 Tantra's Influence in East and West
 31:40 Reflections on Saintliness      
 44:25 The Enigma of Crazy Wisdom and Non-Conformity
 52:10 Understanding the Hidden Order and Profound Humanity of Saints
 01:09:05 The Role of Romanticism and Humor in Sainthood
 01:17:40 Pilgrimage and the Saintly Path
 01:19:30 Final Reflections 
  
    
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 Authors, Ideas, and Works Mentioned in this Episode
  
 Kitaro Nishida
 Alicia Juarrero
 Friedrich Nietzsche 
 James Filler
 Erich Fromm
 Chögyam Trungpa
 Heidegger
 Plato
 Nagarjuna
 Christianity
 Neoplatonism
 Socrates
 Thomas Aquinas
 Augustine
 Joseph A. Bracken, The Divine Matrix: Creativity As Link Between East and West
 Gregory Shaw, Hellenic Tantra: The Theurgic Platonism of Iamblichus
 Shunryu Suzuki, Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind: Informal Talks on Zen Meditation and Practice 
 Lotus Guru Padmasambhava, The Tibetan Book of the Dead
 Albert Camus, The Plague
 Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov; The Idiot 
  
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