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Agile for Humans with Ryan Ripley and Todd Miller

Breaking the SAFe: Ken Schwaber's "UnSAFE at any Speed" Post

Mar 26, 2023
Yuval Yeret and Ryan Ripley discuss the commercialization of SAFe, criticisms of RUP involvement in SAFe, similarities between SAFe and RUP, the value of measuring outcomes, and engaging leaders in agile transformations.
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Quick takeaways

  • Ken Schwaber questions the understanding and appreciation of lean agile thinking by those with a RUP background in the commercialized SAFe framework.
  • Schwaber emphasizes the importance of measurement and introduces Evidence-Based Management as a measurement framework that can be applied to any agile framework.

Deep dives

Ken Schwaber's critique of SAFe's commercial aspects

Ken Schwaber's blog post from 2013 highlights the commercial aspects of SAFe and its origins. He argues that SAFe, developed by the same people behind Rational Unified Process (RUP), is taking advantage of the growing popularity of agile and attempting to build a business around it. While he acknowledges the experience of those with a RUP background, he questions whether they truly understand and appreciate lean agile thinking. However, he also recognizes that not all individuals with a RUP background have issues with agility. Schwaber suggests that organizations should think for themselves and consider their effective change management approach, focusing on lean and agile principles.

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