Pirate Monk Podcast

| 493 | Lasting Freedom | Drew Boa

Dec 25, 2025
Drew Boa, an author and founder of Husband Material, specializes in helping Christian men break free from pornography. In this engaging discussion, he critiques traditional 12-step programs, emphasizing maturity over purity. Drew likens porn to a childhood pacifier, encouraging a shift in perspective for healing. He also explores how understanding emotional roots and fostering compassion can help men reclaim their identities and navigate sexual struggles. Listeners are offered practical tools to approach their feelings constructively and promote lasting freedom.
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ANECDOTE

Christmas Tree Documentary Surprise

  • Nate and Aaron discuss a documentary about New York Christmas tree vendors that revealed mafia involvement and a Scientologist influence.
  • The hosts found the film touching, entertaining, and unexpectedly dark in parts.
ANECDOTE

First Solo Christmas For A Host

  • Nate shares this Christmas will be the first time he and his wife are alone on Christmas Day due to grown children.
  • He describes it as strange but adaptable with family gathering planned for the day after Christmas.
INSIGHT

Maturity Beats Purity As The Goal

  • Drew Boa reframes porn recovery as moving from purity to maturity rather than moral perfection.
  • He argues emotional development, not rule-keeping, is the core path to lasting change.
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