

The next step for VPNs w/ Carl Dong from Obscura
4 snips Mar 30, 2025
Carl Dong, the founder of Obscura, shares his insights on revolutionizing VPN technology. He tackles the limitations of traditional VPNs by introducing a two-party hop system that minimizes trust. The discussion highlights how these innovations enhance user privacy and counteract internet censorship. Carl also touches on the collaboration with Mulvad and the role of cryptocurrencies in VPN payments. With a focus on community engagement, he emphasizes the importance of evolving privacy solutions in our digital age.
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Great Firewall Experience
- Carl Dong's childhood in China influenced his perspective on VPNs.
- He had to create his own VPN solutions to bypass the Great Firewall.
VPN Development Philosophies
- VPN development differs depending on the environment and its restrictions.
- Western VPNs often focus on speed and geo-restrictions, while those developed in China prioritize obfuscation to bypass firewalls.
iCloud Relay's Significance
- Apple's iCloud Relay is an underappreciated innovation in multi-hop VPN technology.
- It offers enhanced privacy by routing traffic through multiple providers.