Ian Irving hosts The Athletic's podcast dedicated to Manchester United with regular contributor Andy Mitten and club correspondent Laurie Whitwell.
Any optimism from pre-season was dashed by defeat to Brighton, the visitors bringing back traumatic memories of recent years with their first ever win at Old Trafford.
The Frenkie de Jong deadlock shows no sign of breaking and, as The Athletic's David Ornstein broke news of potential moves for Adrien Rabiot and Marko Arnautovic, it's fair to say anxious fans aren't reassured by either prospect.
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Talk of the Devils: The Athletic FC's Manchester United show