
 That UFO Podcast
 That UFO Podcast (Part 2) Grant Cameron: UFOs, conciousness & a different Disclosure
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 Apr 14, 2025  Grant Cameron, an author and researcher on UFOs and consciousness, joins to explore the intriguing connections between these topics. He discusses the crossover between UFO experiences and near-death encounters, highlighting personal transformative narratives. The conversation delves into how evolving perceptions of UFOs reflect our understanding of reality and consciousness. Cameron also emphasizes the significance of community at UFO conferences and the growing public interest in deeper explorations of extraterrestrial interactions and their implications. 
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Consciousness Is Key
- Grant Cameron shifted from government disclosure to consciousness.
- He believes consciousness, the mind, is key to UFOs.
Ron Johnson and Elby
- Ron Johnson, a Mormon, shared his experience with a being named Elby.
- Elby took him to a spirit world with a temple resembling UFO interiors.
Paranormal Reality
- We haven't uncovered any paranormal explanations for mediumship or UFOs.
- There's an undiscovered aspect of reality we don't understand.



